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Lady Godiva
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 Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: Race Day |
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Dear All
My number 1 son has said he wil buy me a race day experience for my Birthday. Is there anywhere on the internet that gives advice on how to drive them. I don't mean the locations, as that's pretty well sorted, more tips on what to do on a race day. For example do you change gear sequentially, or is a block change still the recommended technique.
Your tips and advice, as ever, are much appreciated.
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Sally
P.S. the cars are expected to be a Porsche 911, a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and an Aston Martin. |
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TripleS
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| Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Race Day |
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| Lady Godiva wrote: | Dear All
My number 1 son has said he wil buy me a race day experience for my Birthday. Is there anywhere on the internet that gives advice on how to drive them. I don't mean the locations, as that's pretty well sorted, more tips on what to do on a race day. For example do you change gear sequentially, or is a block change still the recommended technique.
Your tips and advice, as ever, are much appreciated.
Regards
Sally
P.S. the cars are expected to be a Porsche 911, a Lamborghini, a Ferrari, and an Aston Martin. |
Hello Sally.
If we're talking about a track day sort of situation, was block changing ever a recommended way of proceeding? I would have thought not, if you're seeking to exploit the performance of the car.
Have a good day, though. Where are you going? Oulton Park?
Best wishes all,
Dave. |
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Lady Godiva
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Dear Dave - I'm hoping to go to Prestwold Hall in Leicestershire, on the euro 4 challenge. The last time I did anything like this was Formula Ford at Silverstone, so I'm quite excited.
When I mentioned block change as being recommended, I was referring to road driving. I do that on the road, but do track drivers change sequentially to get advantage from the compression. Or not? Or other things.
I feel that the more advice I get up front, the more enjoyment I'll get from it, because I'm sure some of it is different to road driving. I'm just not sure which bits.
Me in a Ferrari....whooo hooo.
Love Sally
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TripleS
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Sally - beg pardon, I thought your reference to block changing was just relating to track driving.
Obviously it can be done on the road sometimes, but in track driving I really don't know. I could imagine it being used for downchanges at times, but I can't see a block change being done whilst accelerating, as I would think you're bound to limit the performance by doing that.
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I'd imagine you'll have an instructor alongside... it's unlikely you'll be puishing to anything over 7/10ths, so I'd say comfort and doing what feels natural, rather than looking for maximum performance and technique, is the key - you're going to have a good time, after all, not to set a new lap record.
Enjoy yourself, anyhow... 
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martine
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Sally,
This is an interesting coincidence...you're not going to Prestwold Hall on the 20th June are you? I am booked on their 'ultimate track day' - same cars as you mentioned. 
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Lady Godiva
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| martine wrote: | Sally,
This is an interesting coincidence...you're not going to Prestwold Hall on the 20th June are you? I am booked on their 'ultimate track day' - same cars as you mentioned. |
Dear Martine
It's not booked yet, and it is partly dependent on my number 1 son actually doing something about it. However, he's rarely let me down in the past, so fingers crossed.
I mentioned Prestwold Hall as I've had it recommended. You do 3 laps (5 miles) familiarisation sat in the passenger seat of a BMW, then 3 laps each in the cars (Porsche, etc).
Let me know how you get on.
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Lady Godiva
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| PeteG wrote: | I'd imagine you'll have an instructor alongside... it's unlikely you'll be puishing to anything over 7/10ths, so I'd say comfort and doing what feels natural, rather than looking for maximum performance and technique, is the key - you're going to have a good time, after all, not to set a new lap record.
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Dear Pete - oh, I will certainly enjoy myself.
I'm not sure about the instructor, it's more someone sat next to you (although I understand they are qualified race instructors).
Not set a new lap record.....oh I don't know. I want to go down in history as the fastest driver on record still doing pull push. Tee hee hee.
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| Lady Godiva wrote: | | PeteG wrote: | I'd imagine you'll have an instructor alongside... it's unlikely you'll be puishing to anything over 7/10ths, so I'd say comfort and doing what feels natural, rather than looking for maximum performance and technique, is the key - you're going to have a good time, after all, not to set a new lap record.
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Dear Pete - oh, I will certainly enjoy myself.
I'm not sure about the instructor, it's more someone sat next to you (although I understand they are qualified race instructors).
Not set a new lap record.....oh I don't know. I want to go down in history as the fastest driver on record still doing pull push. Tee hee hee.
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....and keeping both hands on the steering wheel at all times....which means gear changes (block or otherwise) are quite out of the question. 
Best wishes all,
Dave.
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| TripleS wrote: | | ....and keeping both hands on the steering wheel at all times....which means gear changes (block or otherwise) are quite out of the question. |
Unless the car has those new-fangled flappy paddles
Chris |
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Mr Cholmondeley-Warner
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Have fun. Normally on track you'll find it easier to do sequential changes, to avoid HUGE rev differences when braking hard, and to avoid missing a gear and bursting the gearbox.
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martine
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| Lady Godiva wrote: | I mentioned Prestwold Hall as I've had it recommended. You do 3 laps (5 miles) familiarisation sat in the passenger seat of a BMW, then 3 laps each in the cars (Porsche, etc).
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I think the one I'm doing is the 'full monty'...no lap limit just 6 hours to play with the cars (limited to 8 people with 4 instructors).
In answer to others...I believe the Lambo, Ferrari and Porsche all have 'flappy paddle' gear shifts...not sure about the Aston...so you have to do sequential changes and have both hands on the wheel! I've never used one or driven anything so exotic so I think they'll be a steep learning curve for me.
Should be a hoot but I think I'll be knackered by the end (mentally and physically).
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| ScoobyChris wrote: | | TripleS wrote: | | ....and keeping both hands on the steering wheel at all times....which means gear changes (block or otherwise) are quite out of the question. |
Unless the car has those new-fangled flappy paddles
Chris |
Yes, I'm afraid a good deal of this new(ish) fancy gadgetry has passed me by.
Best wishes all,
Dave. |
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| TripleS wrote: | | ScoobyChris wrote: | | TripleS wrote: | | ....and keeping both hands on the steering wheel at all times....which means gear changes (block or otherwise) are quite out of the question. |
Unless the car has those new-fangled flappy paddles
Chris |
Yes, I'm afraid a good deal of this new(ish) fancy gadgetry has passed me by.
Best wishes all,
Dave. |
I'd rather have a proper manual box, myself... I can see the appeal when you're going for outright speed, but I think going up and down the box is a key element of being involved in a drive...
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| PeteG wrote: | | TripleS wrote: | | ScoobyChris wrote: | | TripleS wrote: | | ....and keeping both hands on the steering wheel at all times....which means gear changes (block or otherwise) are quite out of the question. |
Unless the car has those new-fangled flappy paddles
Chris |
Yes, I'm afraid a good deal of this new(ish) fancy gadgetry has passed me by.
Best wishes all,
Dave. |
I'd rather have a proper manual box, myself... I can see the appeal when you're going for outright speed, but I think going up and down the box is a key element of being involved in a drive... |
Thank you, Pete. I was thinking much the same, but I daren't say so in case I got into trouble with somebody for favouring the old fashioned ways of doing things. 
Best wishes all,
Dave. |
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