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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Petition to sort out front fog light misusers? Reply with quote

Anyone concerned enough about front fogs? Here's your chance:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/frontfoglights/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does annoy me slightly when people have them on for no reason but I must admit, they've never dazzled me or annoyed me anywhere near as much as when people leave their rear fogs on.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always found misadjusted headlights to be much more of a problem, though there isn't much as disproportionately annoying as a superfluous rear fog Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Petition to sort out front fog light misusers? Reply with quote

crr003 wrote:
Anyone concerned enough about front fogs? Here's your chance:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/frontfoglights/


A simple puzzle involving rearranging the following word to make a well known phrase comes to mind, "life, a, get".

Sorry, but I really can't understand why people get so hot under the collar about this. There are much more important things to worry about.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind stricter penalties, how about they just enforce the ones that exist currently. The use of front fogs per se isn't necessarily that annoying (except for when people are using them purely because they believe it makes their car look better... it doesn't). Although, on several occasions I've seen people in the dark on sidelights and front fogs, or people using front fogs with a headlight out and that does kind of irritate me... (although I'm working on it in group Wink )
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Petition to sort out front fog light misusers? Reply with quote

Silk wrote:
crr003 wrote:
Anyone concerned enough about front fogs? Here's your chance:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/frontfoglights/


A simple puzzle involving rearranging the following word to make a well known phrase comes to mind, "life, a, get".

Sorry, but I really can't understand why people get so hot under the collar about this. There are much more important things to worry about.


To me it's a mild irritant, amounting to a bit of added glare, which of course is unwelcome, but not really dazzling. I just think of people who misuse foglights as dickheads, and leave it at that. It does seem ridiculous though when you see people driving about with headlights on, and front foglights on a bright sunny day!

I'll have a look at the petition and might sign it, given that somebody has taken the trouble to set it up.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

golf_driver wrote:
Never mind stricter penalties, how about they just enforce the ones that exist currently. The use of front fogs per se isn't necessarily that annoying (except for when people are using them purely because they believe it makes their car look better... it doesn't). Although, on several occasions I've seen people in the dark on sidelights and front fogs, or people using front fogs with a headlight out and that does kind of irritate me... (although I'm working on it in group Wink )


I agree that the current legislation should be enforced. However it seems that the current policing strategy (cameras) are unable to deal with this and many other RTA offences.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the risk of starting an argument I would say that I've seen a lot of people carry out manoeuvres well within the speed limit that were much more dangerous than someone doing 65 in a 60 at a given point in time, i.e. with a gap whereby they could stop in the space they could see to be clear on their own side of the road (in fact, they could have done if they were doing 90mph)

To me someone with their front fogs on in good visibility is someone that is either unaware of the law or has chosen to disregard it, and in the case of the later is much more likely to commit further infrigments in terms of speeding, etc.

I'd like to see a return (I'm in my 20's, so I'm guessing it'll be a return, I didn't catch the matinee Wink ) to common sense policing whereby dangerous driving is more important than getting clocked at 3mph over the limit. That sort of thinking encourages people to spend far too much time looking down at their dials and not enough time maintaining all round observation.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

golf_driver wrote:
To me someone with their front fogs on in good visibility is someone that is either unaware of the law or has chosen to disregard it


... or has picked their car up from the alarm fitters (who coincidentally pressed both front and rear fogs switches when refitting lower dashboard trim) and the only indication to the driver is a weak light in each switch which is invisible unless you're about 2" away from it Embarassed

I wonder where the law stands on the new trend by manufacturers to illuminate a single front fog light when a car is turning in that direction......

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScoobyChris wrote:


... or has picked their car up from the alarm fitters (who coincidentally pressed both front and rear fogs switches when refitting lower dashboard trim) and the only indication to the driver is a weak light in each switch which is invisible unless you're about 2" away from it Embarassed


Chris


Or even the MOT station, which caught me out with this in a nova where the fog light waring was down below the steering wheel. It took me a couple of days to notice that it had been left on Embarassed .
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol... ok, both of those examples aside Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScoobyChris wrote:
golf_driver wrote:
To me someone with their front fogs on in good visibility is someone that is either unaware of the law or has chosen to disregard it


... or has picked their car up from the alarm fitters (who coincidentally pressed both front and rear fogs switches when refitting lower dashboard trim) and the only indication to the driver is a weak light in each switch which is invisible unless you're about 2" away from it Embarassed

I wonder where the law stands on the new trend by manufacturers to illuminate a single front fog light when a car is turning in that direction......

Chris


I didn't know about that, but I do recall the arrangement on the Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud and the corresponding Bentley model (the S series, I think) of the 1950s. On those cars the front foglights were used as the direction indicator flashers. Now that I think about it again I don't remember them being amber; maybe they were, but a pale amber - if you know what I mean.

Best wishes all,
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TripleS wrote:




I didn't know about that, but I do recall the arrangement on the Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud and the corresponding Bentley model (the S series, I think) of the 1950s. On those cars the front foglights were used as the direction indicator flashers. Now that I think about it again I don't remember them being amber; maybe they were, but a pale amber - if you know what I mean.

Best wishes all,
Dave.


Amber front indicators weren't obligatory until 1st september 1965, prior to that date they could be white or amber.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vannut wrote:
TripleS wrote:


I didn't know about that, but I do recall the arrangement on the Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud and the corresponding Bentley model (the S series, I think) of the 1950s. On those cars the front foglights were used as the direction indicator flashers. Now that I think about it again I don't remember them being amber; maybe they were, but a pale amber - if you know what I mean.

Best wishes all,
Dave.


Amber front indicators weren't obligatory until 1st september 1965, prior to that date they could be white or amber.


Oh, thank you. I was not aware of that.

Now that you've mentioned that, I'm trying to think what the front flashers were like on my Austin-Healey Sprite - a 1960 model - and I seem to think they were colourless, which would be quite legal from what you say.

Best wishes all,
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As i'm sure you all know, people driving with their auxillary lamps illuminated can be issued a £30 Non-endorsable conditional offer of fixed penalty if the lamps are being used inappropriately. Not many police officers will actually enforce this, from my experience.
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