Why I Avoid "organised" Runs

OILY PAWS · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Fife

Have a look at this short clip, it's only 30 odd seconds long, it was taken on Sunday 6th at a local egg run...... and feel free to append your comments

the riders in yellow jackets/tabards/surcoats are marshals for the event

I neither took the video, was involved in either the arranging of the run or took part in the run

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JirZPD507rw

Horse · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 495 Location: Darkest Berkshoire

One of the problems with a run like that - where, presumably, the marshals were 'leap frogging' the main convoy - is that they end up having to go twice as fast as the main group, while riders in the group aren't watching and allowing space for them.

Add in a a bit of panic - the foot down rather than braking (and on a tourer like that there's usually a fair bit available from the back brake) - and almost certainly target fixation too . . . Sad

It seemed like the car stopped just in time.
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ipsg.glf · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 275

In this day and age of Health and Safety, I am amazed that this type of loose organisation is permitted. What training will these marshalls have had in order to fulfill this role?

I was sitting behind a Traffic Car on a small roundabout the other week when 3 marshalls glided onto a roundabout and raised their hands to stop the traffic.

It would certainly have been interesting to know what the TrafPol's thoughts on the matter were.

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Stephen · Joined: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 40

Looking at the road lay out I would have said that if the marshall would have used a little bit more observation and planning ,as it looked as though the car was was there to be seen well in advance. I would say somewhere along the line Red mist along with panic set in causing chances to be taken which resulted in this situation developing and happening.
After all you cant expect the motorcyclists themselves to be constantly watching for the overtaking marshalls,as they had enough to contend with such as the closeness they were travelling to each other and the poor road and weather conditions.
I am sure there were lessons to be learned on that ride just like there always is on any organised event of that size,as nothing runs smoothly 100%.
Stephen

TripleS · Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject:

OILY PAWS · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Fife

Road layout, there is a straight of approx 800 yards then a series of blind summits, and gentle curves, then it enters a village, the car would have been in view from leaving the roundabout, unles the rider was looking at his front wheel.

Apparently there was another RTC on the run which involved another Marshal and a participant in the run, on approach to a roundabout the marshals bike took the other bike out injuring the pillion, and was written off in the process.

and the roads a 40......not NSL

AlistairL · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:

OILY PAWS · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Fife

AlistairL · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject:

Horse · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 495 Location: Darkest Berkshoire

OILY PAWS · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Fife

Horse · Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 495 Location: Darkest Berkshoire

OILY PAWS · Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Fife

Big Err · Joined: 02 Jul 2006 Posts: 586 Location: Kinross, Scotland

Ahh,that makes sense. A load of bike guys in yellow jackets trying to stop traffic - umm no. Can't recall seeing "biker in yellow jacket" as having the right to stop traffic in the legislation......