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 Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: What defines a good driver..????? |
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Hi,
Still bugs me this, I am 30 yrs old (just  ) and passed my IAM test aged 17, RoADAR Gold when 18 and so on....however, out of all my friends I was the one who never drove fast on the road, kept to speed limits (well most of the time) - consequently I am the only one who has never bent a car (touch wood) and have a clean licence.
Because of this I still have the image of being a slow driver (observant and in control in our world), even though I have a race licence and have won a number of class wins under my belt...
Is it the perception of "jo public" that to be seen as a good driver - no I mean a "GOOD DRIVER" you need to demonstrate to your friends, often at an early age that driving recklessly/fast is the way "real driving ability" is shown.
Must be a male thing, either that or F1/WRC is to blame! 
Rob
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Unfortunately 'speed' receives a disproportionally elevated status in wide circles (including with some 'advanced' drivers).
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Safe, System (which ever you are trained to), Smooth and Progressive.
I find it hard to argue against this list in that order, Smooth or Progressive driving can be sacrifised for safety but not the other way round. |
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driversdomainuk
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Speed is a macho thing...and when you try and go down the advanced driving route when judging how good a driver, so many will say "ah yes but I am know how to handle a car"
Funny thing is, the closest these people have got to motor sport is ordering the sports pack on their company car!!
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Mr Cholmondeley-Warner
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We all enjoy speed (well most of us). I'm not sure how being a slower, observant and controlled driver is "better" or "safer" than being a faster, observant and controlled driver. We are conditioned to think that way by our legal system.
Speed is relevant to conditions, I think we've been here before ... 
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I think speed matters, as they say elsewhere.
It just ought to be the - wow - we're-going-quite-quickly type, as opposed to the oh-shit-we're-going-a-bit-quick flavour.
I've been on a few drives which have been spoiled by the driver trying too hard to go too fast too soon. Occasionally as a passenger. |
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| Well a driver who obeys the law is a good start - and yes that includes speed limits! |
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driversdomainuk
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr Cholmondeley-Warner wrote: | We all enjoy speed (well most of us). I'm not sure how being a slower, observant and controlled driver is "better" or "safer" than being a faster, observant and controlled driver. We are conditioned to think that way by our legal system.
Speed is relevant to conditions, I think we've been here before ... |
Think too many people (not necessary including you ) think they are safe driving fast because they have done some advanced training and it happens to fit in with what they like.
Fact is, faster you drive the greater the chances of having a crash - FINAL
And remember this is coming from someone who drives fast on a track for a hobby!
When I was saying slow, I dont mean going down the motorway at 55mph. Just not driving like a prat
The same driver driving at 60 mph on a road will be safer than doing 70 mph - quite simply as the driver is the same, but speed is faster. However, there are drivers who can drive an 70mph on a road and are safer than another driver who is doing 60mph....if you see what I mean!
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| Oh no, not again. |
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| 7db wrote: | I think speed matters, as they say elsewhere.
It just ought to be the - wow - we're-going-quite-quickly type, as opposed to the oh-shit-we're-going-a-bit-quick flavour.
I've been on a few drives which have been spoiled by the driver trying too hard to go too fast too soon. Occasionally as a passenger. |
I know what you mean.
However, on public highways we should also keep within the law.
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Substitute the word SPEED for the word PROGRESS and see if you now perceive things differently 
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| 7db wrote: | | Oh no, not again. |
Yes, I groaned a little too
Ok an advanced driver makes safe progress within the limits of the law |
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One day soon the limit on all roads will be 50 mph.
Any point in being an AD then?.
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| WhoseGeneration wrote: | One day soon the limit on all roads will be 50 mph.
Any point in being an AD then?. |
YES - speed is one thing - observation and planning is another....
50 limit - no prob. I could still kill pedestrians at 30mph or less
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